Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] I think we need to bring back fighting, being behind screens and semi anonymous, or even not anonymous, but protected by the screen. And this whole digital argument thing, it makes it so easy to devolve into ad hominem attacks instead of just focusing on the argument at hand. And then people get insulted and say, f you. F you. You're gonna insult me. And then they start screaming at each other digitally like, you, first of all, wouldn't treat someone that way. Most likely in person. Because if you did that in person, it prob lead to people having to break up the fight. Right, but why break it up?
[00:00:37] Okay? You guys both feel so strongly about it that you actually want to fight and insult each other. Get up on stage, or let's. Let's go out behind the building.
[00:00:47] Fight. So I'm in a group that has a lot of people from around the world, and there was this political discussion that got really heated, and a couple people got mad at each other. And so exactly what I'm describing happened. They started insulting each other, and it just became this thing that devolved into ad hominem attacks, and it was fu. Fu.
[00:01:05] And they got removed from the group. The admin kicked them out.
[00:01:09] Now, I don't. I don't agree that they should be kicked out. I just think that they should have to fight.
[00:01:14] Oh, seriously? Like, because if we're talking about survival at the end of the world, I want to know who the dogs are. I want to know who's on my team. And I'm realizing the older I get that, the more people I meet who didn't play sports at a high level. Coming from America, yes, I'm privileged, whatever. But, like, if you played college sports or any level pro sports, you understand the mentality. You understand the competitive spirit, even if it's not necessarily you. Like, obviously, there's lots of great pro athletes who are just soft as Charman, right? That's why Kobe and MJ were who they were. And that's why people rag on someone like LeBron, who's had an incredible career, but everybody calls him soft because they don't have that killer mentality. I want to know who the killers are. If we're talking about surviving at the end of the world, I want to know who the dogs are. Because if you can't fight in practice and then make up, me like, all right, bro, you know, cool. We're on the same team. Like, but I got really heated. You got really heated. You know, maybe we threw some punches. Maybe we actually, like, took it to the ground. And then they had broke us up.
[00:02:26] As long as you're mature enough as a man that you can take your licks and get back up and then realize, okay, this guy's on my team. Those are the people I want on my effing team. Are you kidding?
[00:02:38] I want to know who those dogs are. So if you're all bark and no bite, I don't want you on my team. Thank you anyway. And there's always, in every group, there's always guys who have to posture like they're the alpha. But can you take a hit? Can you get hit in the mouth? Can you?
[00:02:56] I can. When I used to train Jeet Kune do and bjj, I'd straight blast gym.
[00:03:04] One of my favorite things that we ever had to do was corner drill, where they would stick you in a corner and you just had to get the shit beat out of you for like 30 seconds or 60 seconds. And you had to defend, but you couldn't punch back. You had to learn to take a hit. And it was such great. Like, that mentality is just so lost in our society now. I don't think most young people get that because you don't ever have to take a hit. Like, our sports are so soft now. Basketball is so soft. American football is so soft, you can't touch the quarterback. Like, I know I sound like an unk or a boomer here, but when guys talk about that, like, you know, the. The John Elways or the Dan Marinos or the Johnny Unituses of the world, those quarterbacks, comparing them to today's quarterbacks who can't be touched, like, yeah, there was a level of toughness back in the day where you could actually hit the quarterback. Like, Joe Montana got taken out by freaking Lawrence Taylor.
[00:04:03] The guy who described a good hit as better than sexual was allowed to hit the quarterback back in the day, in the 80s and 90s, right? Everything is too soft. And so if you grew up in the west, you are probably way too soft if you don't train.
[00:04:21] So I want to know who the guys are who were willing to not only say that shit in person. Like, if you're hiding behind a screen acting tough, like, I'll say, fuck you. Like, come say it to my face. And then if you're willing to say it to my face, okay, cool, okay. You at least have, you know, the cojones to be a man face to face.
[00:04:41] But now if you want to take it even further, okay, let's fight. Cool.
[00:04:46] But realize then there's also the Other part, you have to realize that at the end of the day, we're on the same team. We want freedom for humanity. We're fighting against the system together. Okay?
[00:04:59] So as long as you can get in the ring with me, whether you beat the shit out of me or I beat the shit out of you, or it's a draw or whatever, we both draw blood. Cool. But at the. After that, then we need to be like, okay, all right. We got that aggression out. All right, cool. We can agree to disagree. But now let's realize that we're on the same team.
[00:05:17] Those are the kind of dogs that I want to go to war with. And anybody who's been in the military or played sports at a high level understands that inherently.
[00:05:26] And most people, unfortunately don't.
[00:05:29] And being behind a screen, the digitization of our. Of our debates in our world has made people so effing soft.
[00:05:39] So soft.
[00:05:41] And the extreme feminization of our world because of this, you know, feminism that has been trying to kill toxic masculinity, what they call toxic masculinity, which is just guys being guys for so long, my whole lifetime, that's a double whammy that has just caused men to not be men and not be capable of being men. Yeah, you have to be able to control yourself when you're playing sports. You don't want to be thrown out of games. And so the guys who can't control themselves, that's an issue too, because you don't want to be in battle with someone who's just a loose cannon who can't control themselves. But playing with passion and having strong beliefs held loosely, you should. But having strong beliefs and being willing to fight for those, I want to know who those people are, honestly.
[00:06:32] And so I don't think that the admin should have kicked those guys out of the group.
[00:06:35] I think that they should just have to fight. And if they're not willing to do that, well, then stop saying fuck you. Fuck you behind a screen. Because if you're not a tough guy who's willing to step in the ring and take some punches physically, then don't act like you're a tough guy with your words.
[00:06:52] So that's just my two cents, but those are the kind of people that I want to know and find and go to war with. And if you have an issue with me, but realize that we're on the same team, but you want to kick my ass, okay, I'll take you up on it. Not afraid of anyone or anything like.
[00:07:11] And I'm definitely willing to fight for my values. So if you want to take it that far, cool.
[00:07:16] Like, the older I get, the less that I get to do competitive sports at a high level also. And so the more aggression that I have, which is why I try and avoid politics now, because it just pisses me off.
[00:07:27] But, yeah, like, okay, let's fight, and then let's like.
[00:07:33] Like, slap hands and be like, all right, cool, we're on the same team again, but don't start that shit again or we're gonna get back in the ring. Like, I want to know who those people are.
[00:07:42] I don't. I don't necessarily want you on my team if you can talk a big game and you bark, but you're not willing to fight.
[00:07:49] So if you're passionate, cool. Just be willing to back it up physically. And if you're not, yeah, you're probably not gonna make it at the end of the day, because at some point, it's gonna come down to life or death. It's gonna come down to fighting physically. It's gonna come down to fighting freaking robots. Who knows? But I want to know that I have people on my team who are freaking dogs, because I am one. And if you're on my team, I mean, I'll be that bad guy that does the dirty work, who fights for you and defends you no matter what, because you're on my team.
[00:08:23] But in practice, I'm bringing it at you, too.
[00:08:26] So that's how it should be.
[00:08:29] Like, that's how it should be. And that's the mentality that people.
[00:08:34] A lot of people loved about MJ and about Kobe was exactly that. Like, he brought it harder in practice, and a lot of his teammates hated him. But you know what? He made him better. And he won him six championships.
[00:08:46] So that's what you have to have.
[00:08:50] You need that.
[00:08:52] Not all this, like, soft Kumbaya shit. That's not gonna work at the end of the world. Okay, you sing Kumbaya, that's fine. Like, that's cool.
[00:09:02] Like, I like to party with my. My brothers in arms also. But you gotta be willing to go to battle, too. And the reason why you have that trust, the reason why you can have a good time is because you know they got your back and you've got theirs. They know that you've got theirs.
[00:09:19] There has to be that. That trust that has to be earned, because trust is earned.
[00:09:26] And you gotta earn it by being willing to take some hits even from each other.
[00:09:34] And most people aren't. Most people are just too soft. I want people who are like me, who understand loyalty and understand what it's like to fight in the trenches and be willing to risk it all for your bros or your sisters, for the people that are on your team.
[00:09:52] So if that's you, awesome.
[00:09:57] Be that way. If that's not you, like, don't start leaving, like, a bunch of crazy comments behind anonymous accounts because you're just proving that you're a worthless human.
[00:10:11] I'm sorry. Not sorry.
[00:10:14] Even if it's not an anonymous account like you. It's so funny when you see people, like, talk so big and then they. They meet someone accidentally in person, and they're just like, oh, so respectful. It's like, bro, you were, like, cussing me out and calling me all sorts of names, like, three days ago from behind your screen, and now suddenly you're like, cordial.
[00:10:36] Fuck you.
[00:10:38] I'm going to say that because if you have beef with someone cool, that that happens. There's nothing wrong with that.
[00:10:47] This world is so soft that you can't even, like, have a disagreement or you can't even dislike someone. You can't even, like, want to fight. Like, what happened from, like, my parents generation, like, the guys in the 50s, like, that it was glorified. Like, you know, going out behind in the schoolyard and, like, you fight like men.
[00:11:07] My generation, too. Like, I remember going out behind the schoolyard, like, behind the gym or whatever, behind the locker room. I remember a bunch of fights like that.
[00:11:17] And there's nothing wrong with that.
[00:11:20] Now there's, like, this cultural violence where people get killed, which is. That's not okay either. Like, you have to know where the line is. You have to value life. But, geez, you want to drop the gloves and go, let's go. Like, that's why hockey is, like, the last bastion of masculinity, I think, in sports, because they still let them fight. They still let them take off the gloves and the helmets and go at it for 30 seconds or a couple minutes and punch each other in the face like it's a badge of honor.
[00:11:47] Get a black eye or, you know, the hockey players are, like, the last masculine athletes, I think.
[00:11:54] And I know that that's gonna, like, everyone's big. Shut up, Boomer. No, but for real, go watch American football from the freaking 80s and early 90s.
[00:12:05] It's a totally different game. I'm not saying that the athletes today aren't better because they're. Yes, the athletes today are better athletes, but go watch basketball from, like, the Dirty pistons and how hard they would hit mj.
[00:12:20] Good Lord. Nobody gets touched like that today.
[00:12:24] It was just a different world. It was a tougher, tougher world.
[00:12:28] It doesn't mean it was better sport, but it was tougher. Men were more masculine. Men were more men, and we're gonna need that again.
[00:12:38] So that's the kind of person that I'm training to be in every way.
[00:12:45] And those are the kind of guys that I want to find and be around, not pseudo tough guys who just are all bark and hide behind screens. I'd kick your ass, but I just had shoulder surgery.
[00:13:00] Well, then shut up. Stop running your mouth. If you can't back it up, you probably shouldn't be spitting it out. Like, I talked a lot of trash.
[00:13:08] And when I was playing basketball in the Cambodian basketball league in Asia, there was some Chinese teams that just really didn't like me. I didn't, I guess, because I talk trash, and they. They lose face. And they were all mainland China Chinese guys who came down.
[00:13:23] It was like, a casino owner that was really wealthy and corrupt and whatever, and he would bring these dudes down from China.
[00:13:30] So they were all, like, really big.
[00:13:33] So these dudes are just, like, dunking hard, like, six, four, six five.
[00:13:37] And we had a couple guys like that, too. One of my buddies is, like, six five. But these dudes were.
[00:13:42] They were ballers, but they couldn't handle trash talk. And to me, that was funny, and it made me want to talk more, like, they were better than me. I was, like, in my mid-30s, and these guys were all, like, in their 20s, and they were better at basketball, but I could play the physical game, and they couldn't. Like, it would get in their heads. They couldn't handle it.
[00:14:01] And one time, like, it just. It got to a point where I took a charge or something, and I pushed the guy off me to stand up, and it, like, cleared the bench. Well, their bench cleared. Their Entire crowd came out. Like, there was video on Facebook of, like, dudes, like, jumping karate, kicking people, and, like, then we'd, like. They had to, like, usher us out with security because they were, like, willing to bring knives and stuff. And actually, they wanted to mess me up.
[00:14:29] But that's exactly the point, too. It's like, you can't handle it. So those are people that you can't trust. So, oh, you're a fighter, but now you want to get weapons because, like, some dude was talking trash to you on the basketball court.
[00:14:42] Like, you can't handle words.
[00:14:45] I wasn't getting Physical, outside of the rules of the game. But I talk a lot of trash. That was my favorite thing to do, is talk trash because I, I don't know, I'm just, I like to do that and I like to get in guys heads and I'm, I believe that I'm mentally tougher than anyone.
[00:15:03] So even if you're better than me, I'm mentally tougher than you.
[00:15:07] And so I will talk trash and get in your head and I'll throw you off your game and I'll still be on my game because my game is talking trash and hustling and playing defense and hitting a few threes from now and that time to time. But my game was talking trash and playing defense. And so that was fun for me. But guys like really, really couldn't handle it.
[00:15:28] And it's like, then you have guys who try and talk but then they get like so fired up that they can't play the game.
[00:15:35] It's like, we don't, we don't want those people either.
[00:15:38] You got to be able to be yourself. First of all. You need to know yourself. You need to know your strengths and weaknesses, your limits.
[00:15:46] But if you're gonna talk, you have to be able to back it up.
[00:15:50] And that talking, if you're not able to back it up, then don't expect your teammates to back it up for you or just don't talk.
[00:15:59] So I'm gonna keep talking and I'm gonna keep pushing guys to bring back bare knuckle brawls.
[00:16:06] I think we need to have more fights. And like you don't have a pack of wolves that never fights, never has intra pack squabbles that's gonna stay strong and fresh and ready to fight an external enemy. You have to have those squabbles, you have to have those fights with the alphas. You have to have those jockeying for position and authority and whatever. You got to be willing to be wounded and wound somebody else, but then realize like you're still part of the package.
[00:16:33] And that is, I think the biggest weakness with, with humans, especially today, especially western guys, is just people are so damn soft that you can't, you can't get in a fight and then make up first of all, which is terribly weak. But most people can't even get in a fight. Like they'll run away from it. And, and then the, the peacemakers in the group are like, oh, we shouldn't do that. We all, guys, we're all on the same team, we all need to get along. Yeah, we Only need to get along, which is why we need to kick each other's asses in practice, which is why we need rigorous debate, which is why we need to put everyone's beliefs under a microscope. That doesn't mean that we all just need to like devolve the argument into ad hominem attacks. That's ridiculous. And that only happens really behind a screen. Most people don't do that in person unless they're like really willing to get their asses kicked. Because when you do that in person, then people generally like are much more amped to fight until it's generally more professional and peaceful and whatever in person. But like take it up to that level and this, I'm being so serious right now.
[00:17:47] We are going to have to fight for our lives if we're going to stay free.
[00:17:54] And I don't know if it's going to be people or robots or AI, like demons or what, but we're gonna have to fight it. And so if you're not ready to do that and if you don't have people that you know you can trust, that have your back and that they know you have their backs, you're not gonna make it.
[00:18:11] A pack of wolves needs those intra pack squabbles. It needs those fights to stay fresh in every way.
[00:18:20] So debate vigorously, passionately.
[00:18:25] But debate about the issues. Don't devolve to like juvenile attacks.
[00:18:30] Well, you're a fatty. Well, your mom is stupid. Like, what is that accomplishing? Stick to the issues, focus on the issues and fight about it, argue about it. And if you get so passionate about the issues that then you like really want to physically fight, then by all means do that. I want to know who the people are who are willing to fight for their values, willing to take a punch for their values, willing to punch somebody else, and this is the most important part. And willing to make up afterwards and be like, alright, bro, all right, that was a good one. Damn, I'm gonna be sore for a week, but you got me. I still disagree with you, but we're on the same team.
[00:19:12] Where are those men, huh?
[00:19:15] Like even, even the big pundits and they just make so much money. But like, I would love to see like Alex Jones get in the ring with whoever, like David Ike or David Ike's son probably because it's not, that's not fair to put David ike, he's like 78 something.
[00:19:32] But Gareth Ike, he's, he's like in his 40s, I think.
[00:19:38] I would love to see him and Alex Jones, like, go at it.
[00:19:41] Why?
[00:19:42] Because I think it's important.
[00:19:43] If you're gonna scream and yell and call each other names and say all this shit all day long, then you should be willing to, like, man up like men used to have to do because they didn't have a screen to hide behind.
[00:19:56] Now, I'm not saying bring back duels. That takes a little too far. I value life. I don't think we need to kill each other, especially we're on the same team.
[00:20:05] No. I was gonna make some other comment about guys on the other team and bringing back duels, but this is just about people on the same team. We don't need to take it that far.
[00:20:15] But a fight. Absolutely.
[00:20:19] Absolutely, man. If you're gonna act like a wolf, you got to be willing to fight like a wolf. And you need to understand how a wolf pack operates.
[00:20:29] And if you don't understand that and you're not willing to do that, you're probably not a wolf, probably a fucking Chihuahua.
[00:20:36] However you figure it out, like, learn to take a hit.
[00:20:42] Learn to dish it out. Learn to take it. That's problem, man. People are too soft. You can dish it out, you can insult people, you can say all kinds of stuff, but somebody says one thing about you, something can't even take words, let alone take a physical punch.
[00:20:58] Pseudo fake tough guys. And I'm not saying that, like, I'm not trying to be an Andrew Tate. Like, I'll beat everything, everybody up. You, you might kick my ass. Okay? I still will get in the ring with you if it comes to that. I'll go get my ass kicked to fight for what I believe in. And I know that I'm mentally tough enough to come back from whatever. Like, the reason why people like Jake Paul, the reason why people root for him to get his ass kicked.
[00:21:26] And, yeah, he. He just did. He got in the ring with the heavyweight champion of the world or former heavyweight champion. He got his job broken in, like, 12 places. And the dude, like, still, like, fighting, like, good for him. Like, I respect the hell out of that. I mean, besides the fact that he's an amazing marketer, he's been fighting a bunch of, like, has beens and old guys and whatever, but he's willing to take a punch from people who are way stronger and better than him.
[00:21:55] It makes him lots of money, but, like, that is so rare. So I'm glad that someone like him exists for the. The younger generation to make a hero, because they need people who could be like, yeah, it's good to be able to take a punch.
[00:22:13] It's manly. To be able to get in the ring and dish it out and take it and not be like, foul, foul. He touched my jersey. I want two shots.
[00:22:25] Like, no. The dude got his jaw broken in, like, a dozen places. Like, shattered his jaw. He got the knocked out of him.
[00:22:35] Irish respect that.
[00:22:37] That's the kind of guy that young people should be looking up to, young men especially, so. And Tate, I guess I didn't see anything about it. I just saw that he lost. Like, he got in the ring, and he's, like, almost 40 years old. He got in the ring with somebody, like, almost half his age and bigger than him.
[00:22:54] Like, good for him. Like that. That's. Bring that back. I'm glad to see that. I was just thinking about that, realized, like, it is starting to come back. Some of these guys, these influencers, because YouTube beef fights, like, Bec.
[00:23:08] I guess maybe it started with Logan Paul or Jake Paul, but that's awesome. I want to see more of that. Our culture needs that. It needs to see people be like, all right, let's go get in the ring and punch each other and beat each other up, and then we're gonna go start a billion dollar company together.
[00:23:29] That is what the younger generation needs, and quite frankly, it's what my freaking generation needs. Y' all are a bunch of soft dudes.
